More karma for bigger projects

I was thinking about how some patterns that you can test take a max of 30 minutes and some bigger things like cardigans and blankets take hours and hour. I was thinking maybe for bigger projects you could get 3 or 2 karma and for smaller projects 1 karma. I dunno if this is a good idea or how it would work but it was just a thought @Ribblr

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I agree! @Ribblr

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Agree.

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I don’t know, because the karma is to show designers how many completed tests you have so of your a reliable tester. If there’s more karma for bigger projects, there’s no telling how many you’ve completed or if you’re a reliable tester. Let’s say you have 5 karma, I don’t know if it’s 5 tests completed or 2 small ones and a larger one that was 3 karma. As a pattern designer myself, I don’t like this idea and I don’t think it’s very reliable.

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I agree, 1 test completed should = 1 karma. It would be difficult for designers to determine by looking at karma points how experienced their prospective testers were

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yes great idea!!

@bulldogcrochetss and @Heavenstar64 please don’t @ them multiple time! There are multiple people and they might keep marking down that same one, the best you can do is agree or disagree and reply for more traction! ^^

I don’t think I (as a designer) would like this… Karma are completed tests, and if all of the sudden that changes, I know it would make it that much more work to pick testers. And honestly the number would in a sense be useless for the designers, and I’m pretty sure the karma is there to help designers.

I personally think its on the designer to go through potential testers’ work and decide if they are a good fit or not. I go through each and every tester that applies to any of my patterns and look at their work, I can see and decide which projects are “worth more” and how that could translate for them testing my pattern.

When I go looking at testers and I see someone has lots of karma but they are little or simple projects vs some who has lower karma but has bigger or complex projects. I can decide which one is a better fit for the pattern based on due date, size, complexity, etc.

The more I think about this, the more useless I know the number would be for me because it would tell me nothing about the tester. Karma is really like @LittleCreatures said, a reliability gauge for designers.

And honestly there would be other issues:

  • Who decided what is worth more karma? Designers, testers, guidelines? Is there now going to be a person who can arbitrarily decide what a pattern is worth?
  • Not everyone would give the same amount of karma for similar patterns. I wouldn’t know how to gauge my patterns and I don’t think I want someone else to decide that for me.
  • testers may not apply to pattern with low karma that they would have originally done so for because all of the sudden its not worth it

And my last little bit of two cents: the karma isn’t really the reward, the pattern you are (generally) getting for free is.

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Oh sorry! :sweat_smile: I will make sure to remember this next time!

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Thanks for sharing! That’s super valuable feedback. We’re not likely to change the karma structure immediately, but this is an important conversation and we’re monitoring all feedback shared here.

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All excellent points! I always check out new applicants’ makes to see their experience, skill level, and photo quality.

Honestly, super high karma can be a negative to me because I’ve been ghosted by them more than once on a test. Too often those folks sign up to test more than they truly have time to complete and have multiple tests competing for their time.

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For a designer to see good pictures of their potential testers makes, including close up pictures, would be a better indicator for them as to what kind of things the tester can make and how well they can make them

Karma points are merely a tool for the designer to use and probably not a perfect tool at that

Actually testers need to be able to rate the designers too so that other testers can know which designers are good to work with

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No it’s fine! Just some friendly advice ^^

I’ve decided to only apply for one at a time, even though I love love love testing because I will get none for weeks then get everything I apply for which is usually too much. Most of the time I can finish everything but often I’m not enjoying it as much. And I have put things off that I would have enjoyed if I could have done it slower. I think we have to learn to regulate ourselves too.

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